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	<title>Comments on: Matt Ridley: Fossil Fuels are Greening the Planet</title>
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		<title>By: Round and Round and Round We Go, And Where We Stop? &#124; American Elephants</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Round and Round and Round We Go, And Where We Stop? &#124; American Elephants]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] always wrong about carbon dioxide. It&#8217;s what we breathe out, and it makes plants grow. It is greening the earth as Matt Ridley explained at some length in this video. There has been way more CO2 in the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] always wrong about carbon dioxide. It&#8217;s what we breathe out, and it makes plants grow. It is greening the earth as Matt Ridley explained at some length in this video. There has been way more CO2 in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Elephant's Child</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Elephant's Child]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 04:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct that plants use CO2. The warming of the planet is not changing the climate. There has been no warming for 16 years, although CO2 in the atmosphere continues to increase. The climate is always changing. It has been warmer in the past, and cooler as well. CO2 is what you breathe out. It is not toxic. There is no such thing as &quot;scientific consensus.&quot; Consensus is not science. I think we&#039;ve been through all this before, Mark, &lt;a href=&quot;http://americanelephant.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/the-scientific-method-or-how-the-scientific-world-is-supposed-to-work/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;but here&#039;s how it works&lt;/a&gt;: There are no &quot;climate deniers&quot; that I know of, only climate skeptics, which is how science is supposed to work. You can figure out how you think things work, but being skeptical, you are always open to proof that they don&#039;t work that way at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct that plants use CO2. The warming of the planet is not changing the climate. There has been no warming for 16 years, although CO2 in the atmosphere continues to increase. The climate is always changing. It has been warmer in the past, and cooler as well. CO2 is what you breathe out. It is not toxic. There is no such thing as &#8220;scientific consensus.&#8221; Consensus is not science. I think we&#8217;ve been through all this before, Mark, <a href="http://americanelephant.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/the-scientific-method-or-how-the-scientific-world-is-supposed-to-work/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">but here&#8217;s how it works</a>: There are no &#8220;climate deniers&#8221; that I know of, only climate skeptics, which is how science is supposed to work. You can figure out how you think things work, but being skeptical, you are always open to proof that they don&#8217;t work that way at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Baird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no denying that plants use CO2. There is no denying that the warming of the planet is changing the climate, some places are drier and some are wetter. And there is no denying that capitalism, a tool of society, has solved many problems in this world and will continue to do so. 

And there is no denying that fossil fuels, sequestered carbon, has helped feed the growing population.

Given the facts he points out, will plants adapt quick enough? Is there a point where the amount of CO2 becomes toxic? Is there a tipping point in the future? Those are still questions that have to be answered.

Of course Mr. Ridley says there is to much confirmation bias in the climate debate and yet I wonder how he, having very strong libertarian leanings, deals with his confirmation bias.

And, because this seems to have been the argument put forth by climate deniers for so long, is there scientific consensus on these observations that Mr. Ridley puts forth? 

If God created this planet then he why did he go to all this work in creating such a balanced system? Maybe the real test he is giving us is how we manage his planet. I would guess, that, because we humans created God we are perfectly capable of defining what he wants from us and we can rationalize our way into the future. 

And of course, in the words of Rick Santorum, &quot;it is not about the science and facts but what you value that really matters.&quot; In other words your values should drive your politics regardless of what the science and facts tell you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no denying that plants use CO2. There is no denying that the warming of the planet is changing the climate, some places are drier and some are wetter. And there is no denying that capitalism, a tool of society, has solved many problems in this world and will continue to do so. </p>
<p>And there is no denying that fossil fuels, sequestered carbon, has helped feed the growing population.</p>
<p>Given the facts he points out, will plants adapt quick enough? Is there a point where the amount of CO2 becomes toxic? Is there a tipping point in the future? Those are still questions that have to be answered.</p>
<p>Of course Mr. Ridley says there is to much confirmation bias in the climate debate and yet I wonder how he, having very strong libertarian leanings, deals with his confirmation bias.</p>
<p>And, because this seems to have been the argument put forth by climate deniers for so long, is there scientific consensus on these observations that Mr. Ridley puts forth? </p>
<p>If God created this planet then he why did he go to all this work in creating such a balanced system? Maybe the real test he is giving us is how we manage his planet. I would guess, that, because we humans created God we are perfectly capable of defining what he wants from us and we can rationalize our way into the future. </p>
<p>And of course, in the words of Rick Santorum, &#8220;it is not about the science and facts but what you value that really matters.&#8221; In other words your values should drive your politics regardless of what the science and facts tell you.</p>
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