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Canada’s Top Doc: Canadian System ‘Imploding’ by American Elephant
August 17, 2009, 2:40 am
Filed under: Capitalism, Health Care, News, News the Media Doesn't Want You to Hear | Tags: ,

The supposedly superior Canadian health care system is collapsing according to the president of the Canadian Medical Association. The cure? Privatization:

Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country – who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting – recognize that changes must be made.

“We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize,” Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press.

“We know that there must be change,” she said. “We’re all running flat out, we’re all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands.”

The pitch for change at the conference is to start with a presentation from Dr. Robert Ouellet, the current president of the CMA, who has said there’s a critical need to make Canada’s health-care system patient-centred. He will present details from his fact-finding trip to Europe in January, where he met with health groups in England, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands and France.

His thoughts on the issue are already clear. Ouellet has been saying since his return that “a health-care revolution has passed us by,” that it’s possible to make wait lists disappear while maintaining universal coverage and “that competition should be welcomed, not feared.”

In other words, Ouellet believes there could be a role for private health-care delivery within the public system. [read more]

So Obama and the Democrats want us to model our health care on a system that is “imploding.”  No wonder Americans now trust Republicans more on health care.

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I find your fight against public healthcare quite fascinating. (sorry just ended up on your blog while searching for images)
The reality is that no system is perfect – you’ll find flaws in all of them, let them be France, English, Canadian or else.
Healthcare costs money.
Like schools do, and army does.
The problem isn’t there, the problem is to figure whether a society reaches a point of development at which it is normal for people to be able to be treated.

Let’s put the taxpayer’s money aside for a moment, because although it’s an important point that cannot be dismissed, it’s quite trivial to always bring things back to money like if taking taxpayers’ money is a pure form of evil(and if money was really the issue, ask all those fancy republicans how they could put your country in debt for something as dispensable as the war in Irak).

Money aside then, do you REALLY think it’s normal for someone to not be treated for a disease in a country like the United States.
I’m not saying to receive treatment from the best surgeon in the world, I’m saying just receiving treatment.

Well unless you’re bloody rich and have never had a serious health problem, I don’t see how you can find that intolerable to use some of your money to help out others, while you find more than normal to use your money to build weapons of mass destruction.

Is the Canadian system imperfect and financially difficult to sustain (especially with the current climate)? Of course it is, healthcare is a heavy investment for any society. I live in the UK and almost $1,500 of my salary goes to healthcare EVERY MONTH. Scary hey?
Do I find this unfair? I could, I’m 28, never really had something serious, and hardly had to go to the hospital.
But here is not the question for me, the real question is that I want to live in a society that I feel part of, that I support when I can and that will support me the day I may need to be.
If money is really the only reason you can find to think healthcare is a crazy wish, and that we should rather leave it to private companies who have no one to answer to but shareholders (surely a great set up for fair practicies), I think you really aren’t fighting the abuse of taxpayer’s money where you should.


Comment by shann

Are you assuming that people don’t get treated in the United States? Don’t believe the propaganda. Everyone gets treatment, by law. We really don’t have dead bodies lying around in the streets.

The problems that we have are all government caused. Most people get their insurance through their employers. This creates the problem that insurance is not portable, and someone who loses a job loses their insurance. Insurance is not offered across state lines and is controlled by state insurance commissioners, and silly mandates get added. The government run Medicare and Medicaid are going broke.

All our problems are fixable by the free market. The idea that government can do a better jobwith health insurance is simply not supported by example or history.


Comment by The Elephant's Child


Your opinion is based on ignorance of the American system. Everyone in America can get health care. Democrats love to repeat over and over that there are 46 million Americans who are “uninsured” but that claim is blatantly dishonest.

Of those 46 million, somewhere in the vicinity of 12 million are illegal immigrants. And no, polls show the vast majority of Americans do not want to spend their hard-earned money to pay for knee replacement for people who are here against the law to begin with. Secondly, over 17 million of those 24 million are people who ALREADY qualify for medicare or medicaid, but arent signed up for it. Third, over 24 million of those 46 million are people who earn over $50,000 and can afford their own health insurance, but do not buy it either because they are young and feel indestructable and would rather spend their money on iphones, high speed internet and beer or because they are so wealthy that they can afford to pay for all their health care needs out of pocket. And any people who remain, are almost always people who are only temporarily uninsured because they are between jobs.

So the idea that millions of Americans who want insurance cant afford it is a blatant lie.

And one thing we dont have in the private market is people dying or suffering for long periods of time while waiting in line for treatment.


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