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The Freedom of Religion Battle by The Elephant's Child
March 3, 2012, 4:08 pm
Filed under: Health Care, Law, The Constitution | Tags: , ,

Congressional Democrats in the guise of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi have been trying to pull a fast one. Sandra Fluke, portrayed as a 23 year-old coed at Georgetown Law School is actually 30 years old, and a long time activist for unmarried victims of domestic violence. Somehow this morphed into being an activist for “reproductive justice,” which means getting someone else to pay for your birth-control pills.

You have probably heard about her testimony. She claimed it cost poor law students $3,000 for three years of birth control; Rush Limbaugh noted that she was declaring on national television that she wanted to have an active sex life without benefit of marriage, and wanted someone else to pay for it, and suggested that implied that she was a slut. That prompted President Obama to make a personal telephone call to her to tell her how proud her parents must be that she was standing up for her principles.

Birth-control seems a private matter, and I don’t understand why someone else should pay for the cost. It is not a health matter, but a matter of Democrat feminists’ demand for “choice.” You choose whether or not you want to have sex outside of marriage, you choose whether or not you want to have a baby, and you choose whether or not you want to pay to do something about it. The price of a 30-day supply of birth control pills at WalMart has been variously described as $4, $6 and $9. That does not seem exorbitant — even for a student.

Adding birth control to mandated health insurance raises the cost of that insurance. Catholic institutions are morally opposed, and the matter is clearly unconstitutional under the freedom of religion clause of the First Amendment. The State shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.

This is a major case of hypocrisy. Nancy Pelosi and Kathleen Sebelius are both Catholic. President Obama, at the same time he celebrates adding to the cost of ObamaCare unnecessarily, is asking Congress to triple the cost of Tri-Care, the military’s health insurance, to the troops, in order to cut the budget.

All this is an attempt to garner women’s votes by telling them that Republicans want to deny women the right to birth control. They are already running ads to that effect. This president has made it clear that he has little respect the separation of powers nor for the Constitution that he took an oath to preserve, protect and defend. He intends to get around it with executive orders and regulation.

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I, too, think that the government should not be trying to force health-insurance companies to pay for birth control.

But Rush’s character assassination of Sandra Fluke — calling her a slut and suggesting that she should post on the Internet videos of herself having sex so that he can watch them — goes well beyond the pale. I would hope that every Republican, especially Republican women, will condemn his outrageous behavior.


Comment by Subsidy Eye

You obviously heard about Rush’s comment 2nd or 3rd hand. Ms. Fluke, in an obvious set-up, presented herself to a national TV audience as an unmarried 23-year-old coed who was leading a very active sex life and insisted that a Catholic university — to whom such things are morally repugnant — should pay for birth control and morning-after pills for all their female students and workers, because it was their “right” to have someone else pay for their health care. Rush, good humoredly, said something to the effect that people who did that used to be called sluts. He apologized, very gracefully. You mischaracterized it. The older generation finds the “hooking-up” generation deplorable, and the effects on young women’s lives and health suffer from their stupidity.


Comment by The Elephant's Child

Yes, I did hear about Rush’d program second- hand. Will try to find it on YouTube when I get home. Are you saying he didn’t say those remarks to the effect that she should post videos of herself having sex?


Comment by Subsidy Eye

I don’t remember that he did, but I was offended by Ms. Fluke. For Rush’s apology go to


Comment by The Elephant's Child

Here’s a video of the first segment:

Unrepentant, Rush then went on the following day with this:

“So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.”

Afterwards, Rush didn’t deny saying that, but tried to pretend it was a joke. Some joke.

“I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.”

Didn’t mean it as a personal attack?! Excuse me, but his remarks were not a one-off slip of the tongue. He meant those remarks, and referred to Sandra Fluke by name. Multiple times. Indeed, he only issued the apology after several companies announced they would be pulling their ads from his program because they did not want to be associated any longer with the radio host. Carbonite, for one, is not convinced of Limbaugh’s sincerity:

No one with daughters the age of Sandra Fluke, and I have two, could possibly abide the insult and abuse heaped upon this courageous and well-intentioned young lady. Mr. Limbaugh, with his highly personal attacks on Miss Fluke, overstepped any reasonable bounds of decency. Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

If anything is absurd, it is Rush Limbaugh’s constant references to “having so much sex she can’t afford it”. When a woman is on a course of contraceptive pills, they protect her from pregnancy (but not VD) whether she has sex once a year or 1000 times in a year.

This has nothing to do with supporting the “hooking-up generation.” (Personally, I am saddened by the delinking of sex from love.) I have no idea as to the details of Ms. Fluke’s personal life, nor do I want to know. But it is insulting to those females who are in a stable relationship, or married, and who use contraception, to be tarred with the same muck that Rush seems to so enjoy flinging.

I understand that for many Republicans (and Libertarians) the issue here is primarily an economic one. Fine, make the economic case.

I am truly amazed, however, by your characterization of Rush’s remarks as “good humored” and that you would pass off his apology as sincere. It is not me who is mischaracterizing.

And, by the way, given that Rush is in many people’s eyes closely associated with the Republican Party, I’d worry (if I were an active member of that party) about how much he may be alienating the 50% of the electorate who are women.


Comment by Subsidy Eye


Limbaugh has since apologized, but that hasn’t stopped the criticism from mainstream Republicans who have grown tired of Limbaugh’s bombastic attitudes and complete control over many wings of the Republican Party.

Senator John McCain said Limbaugh’s statements were unacceptable and “should be condemned” by all politicians. Legendary conservative George Will attacked Speaker of the House John Boehner’s response saying the Speaker calling Limbaugh’s comments “inappropriate” were weak by saying, “using a salad fork for your entrée, that’s inappropriate.”

Will also took aim at the presidential candidates for failing to take on Limbaugh saying, “They want to bomb Iran, but they’re afraid of Rush Limbaugh.”


Comment by Subsidy Eye

You can be as indignant as you want, Subsidy. It’s only when Republicans say something a little strong that everyone erupts in indignation. Sarah Palin was described in far worse, and far more vulgar, language on a daily basis — for no reason whatsoever except that she was a Republican, charismatic, and popular. They sold t-shirts calling her the c-word. They claimed that Bristol’s baby was her father’s. They have even made an propaganda movie about her. Get a little sense of proportion.

George Bush was called dreadful names and Liberal pundits publicly wished him dead, he was hung in effigy, because he was a Republican and president. The left goes way beyond the pale all the time, and are excused completely by the lefty media. If Ms. Fluke were my daughter, I wouldn’t be able to show my face in public, I would be so ashamed. Being an “activist” doesn’t forgive embarrassingly bad behavior.


Comment by The Elephant's Child

Please provide a citation of anybody with anywhere near the stature and audience of Rush Limbaugh saying anything nearly as inappropriate about Sarah Palin — a figure much more in the national limelight for longer than Sandra Fluke has been — that he did about Ms. Fluke.

I did listen to the videos on the link you provided. All come from comedy shows, except the last one. Bill Maher’s oblique reference — “speaking of dumb tw*ts” is crude and unnecessary. David Letterman refers to Palin’s “slutty flight-attendant look” is said in the context of a running joke, but unnecessary. Still, saying somebody has a slutty look is not as serious as calling them a slut. The Wendy Williams show (how many people watch that?), intended to be funny (I don’t find it so), has some woman named Phyllis saying “slut!” in response to every person whose photo she sees on the screen — Sarah Palin, Bill Clinton, Betty White. And another woman (Betty White) calling Sara Palin “one crazy bitch”, in a skit clearly intended to be a spoof. The latter is a crude expression, but not anywhere as strong as calling somebody appearing before a Congressional hearing a slut because they want an insurance policy to pay for their birth-control pills.

The last one has some leftist pundit, Keith Olbermann, calling Michelle Malkin a “big mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick on it.” I find that to be very offensive (even though the subject of his ire is a lot less polite in her demeanor than Ms. Fluke), but still less offensive than suggesting that Fluke should post videos of herself having sex so that Rush and others can watch them.

In any case, the point of my previous post is that it is not only “the leftist media” that are upset over Limbaugh’s remarks. So are an increasing number of Republicans. They recognize that for somebody with as large a following as he has, on a show that aims to provide political commentary (not comedy), to say the things he said drags the rest of them towards a place they don’t want to be.


Comment by Subsidy Eye

You are falling for the Left’s attempt to deflect public discussion and concern from the blatant Unconstitutional attack upon the Catholic Church, which is a very big deal. Ms. Fluke is an adult activist, participating in a phony “congressional testimony” event that was a political ploy to accomplish just what they did. Your getting all excited about degrees of unsuitability and/or vulgarity of particular words and ranking of assorted pundits is silly. Rush said it, and he shouldn’t have, but millions of people thought it, or said it at home.


Comment by The Elephant's Child

Excuse me, but I think for myself. I don’t “fall” for any political side’s attempts to do anything. I am shocked that the Administration would be so dumb as to try to force any religious -based institution to do anything, other than comply with a law that is not unconstitutional. What more do you want me to say on that?

Commenting on the degrees of unsuitability and vulgarity of particular words and ranking of assorted pundits is not silly. In today’s media, anything goes … up to a point. There is, first of all, the court of public opinion. And, traditionally, people aspiring to national office are considered fairer game for ridicule and insult than lesser mortals. There are, as well, courts that hear cases of libel. They have to make the same kind of judgements, based on context and degree.

Rush said it, and he shouldn’t have, … “

Thank you. I was beginning to wonder.

… but millions of people thought it, or said it at home

Perhaps, but I doubt with such vehemence. Those people should recall the comments of Jimmy Carter, who was ridiculed to no end for admitting that he had “sinned in his heart”. There is a big difference between that and getting on the radio and telling the world that he secretly desires Ms. or Mrs. [fill in the blank].


Comment by Subsidy Eye

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