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Vote Fraud? Perish the Thought — Please! Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell! by The Elephant's Child

I got a little curious today, about the prospects for vote fraud in the upcoming election, so I did what we all do when we’re curious, I went to Google for a cursory search. What I found was fascinating. The websites I consider reliably Left, reliably said— nothing to see here, move right along. No such thing, proclaimed large numbers. Republican claims of vote fraud are untrue. Real but rare, they insist. Oh come on. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Chicago? In two elections, Barack Obama fortuitously managed to get court-sealed divorce records of his opponent opened just before the election. My next door neighbors for many years were from Illinois, and they had some remarkable stories. We had some real vote fraud here in Washington State. Military ballots gone missing. Documented. The arguments will continue — there’s a great deal at stake, and Democrats will continue to insist it is all figments of the Republican imagination.

The Washington Post asked a few days ago “Could non-citizens decide the November election?” They went to the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES) for answers.

How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.

Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections. Non-citizen votes could have given Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health-care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress. Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin. It is also possible that non-citizen votes were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina. Obama won the state by 14,177 votes, so a turnout by 5.1 percent of North Carolina’s adult non-citizens would have provided this victory margin.

Estimated Voter Turnout by Non-Citizens
2008 2010
Self reported and/or verified 38 (11.3%) 13 (3.5%)
Self reported and verified 5 (1.5%) N.A.
Adjusted estimate 21 (6.4%) 8 (2.2%)

The study did not indicate any advantage coming from Photo ID, because illegals were able to vote anyway. The researchers say that perhaps the United States should move to legalize some electoral participation by non-citizens as many other countries do—though they offer no justification for so doing. Election rules in Kansas and Arizona are set to bar thousands of people in coming weeks from casting ballots in state primaries even as the federal government allows some of them to vote in congressional races. The comments in the article are about what would be expected:

“There is a very real problem with aliens being registered to vote,” said Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who said about a dozen states are likely to pass such measures in coming years.

Democrats have countered that there are few examples of fraud at the polls and that such steps suppress the vote of such groups as minorities and women.

So there you go. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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That’s the argument for revolution.


Comment by atmsafetypin

Can the Democrats win elections without cheating? If we truly understand that their only goal is power, their actions become easier to understand.


Comment by The Elephant's Child

In Florida need driver license(picture) to vote and they compare signature on sign in sheet to vote. Makes simple sense to me.

The democrats claim to voter suppression is absolute nonsense. The is no legitimate reason anyone can’t have ID. You need one for everything else you do so what’s the big deal?
A simple city or state or police ID costs $10. Or is it that these “disenfranchised “don’t want their fingerprints put into the crime data base ?

I do believe, however, that college ID should be considered valid. They college has one’s social security number as part of registration.

In Miami big absentee ballot fraud in Cuban community. Few years back in state wide Florida verification the dems howled over the time and money spent to find about 250 illegally or expired registrations voting. Does it matter? Sure foes. In 2000 election Bush was given Florida by just over 400 votes.


Comment by Carl D'Agostino

Of course photo ID makes sense. The reason Democrats make an issue of it is that they can portray it to low-information voters as racist. Compare it to a poll tax. Democrats have gone to great lengths to hide their past and blame it on Republicans. Lincoln, in their telling, was a Democrat. Andrew Jackson (the father of the Democratic Party, and biggest slaveholder in the South) becomes a Republican. In their telling, the Dixiecrats all became Republicans, and the noble Democrats passed the Civil Rights bill all by themselves. It’s why they keep planting people with racist signs at Tea Party rallies, who are alert to the threat and chase them out promptly. If American blacks knew their own history, the Democrat party wouldn’t have a base.


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